Hey, Congressional Democrats? Now would be a good time to use that subpoena power of yours:
AMY GOODMAN: Do you see a replay in what happened in the lead-up to the war with Iraq — the allegations of the weapons of mass destruction, the media leaping onto the bandwagon?
GEN. WESLEY CLARK: Well, in a way. But, you know, history doesnâ€™t repeat itself exactly twice. What I did warn about when I testified in front of Congress in 2002, I said if you want to worry about a state, it shouldnâ€™t be Iraq, it should be Iran. But this government, our administration, wanted to worry about Iraq, not Iran.
I knew why, because I had been through the Pentagon right after 9/11. About ten days after 9/11, I went through the Pentagon and I saw Secretary Rumsfeld and Deputy Secretary Wolfowitz. I went downstairs just to say hello to some of the people on the Joint Staff who used to work for me, and one of the generals called me in. He said, â€œSir, youâ€™ve got to come in and talk to me a second.â€ I said, â€œWell, youâ€™re too busy.â€ He said, â€œNo, no.â€ He says, â€œWeâ€™ve made the decision weâ€™re going to war with Iraq.â€ This was on or about the 20th of September. I said, â€œWeâ€™re going to war with Iraq? Why?â€ He said, â€œI donâ€™t know.â€ He said, â€œI guess they donâ€™t know what else to do.â€ So I said, â€œWell, did they find some information connecting Saddam to al-Qaeda?â€ He said, â€œNo, no.â€ He says, â€œThereâ€™s nothing new that way. They just made the decision to go to war with Iraq.â€ He said, â€œI guess itâ€™s like we donâ€™t know what to do about terrorists, but weâ€™ve got a good military and we can take down governments.â€ And he said, â€œI guess if the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem has to look like a nail.â€
So I came back to see him a few weeks later, and by that time we were bombing in Afghanistan. I said, â€œAre we still going to war with Iraq?â€ And he said, â€œOh, itâ€™s worse than that.â€ He reached over on his desk. He picked up a piece of paper. And he said, â€œI just got this down from upstairsâ€ — meaning the Secretary of Defenseâ€™s office — â€œtoday.â€ And he said, â€œThis is a memo that describes how weâ€™re going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran.â€ I said, â€œIs it classified?â€ He said, â€œYes, sir.â€ I said, â€œWell, donâ€™t show it to me.â€ And I saw him a year or so ago, and I said, â€œYou remember that?â€ He said, â€œSir, I didnâ€™t show you that memo! I didnâ€™t show it to you!â€